I haven’t posted anything in awhile, I just haven’t much to say. But I think this is something worth talking about. I saw Avengers Endgame around the weekend it came out and I’m glad I did, cause the the spoilers were really flowing, some things did spoil it for me, but I still loved it. I literally laughed and cried, I was on the edge of my seat, I was throwing punches, I was whispering to myself “Kick his ass!” or “Come on, come on, come on!” One of the funnest movie experiences. But there was one thing I didn’t understand
As you know, in the movie, our heroes try to time travel to retrieve the stones so they can reverse the snap. Their plan involved getting the stones, snapping their fingers, then put the stones back where they found them. Only problem is, Thanos in the past becomes aware of their plan and jumps to the future to recover the stones and do the snap again which leads to the epic final battle ending with Iron Man snapping his fingers with the stones and wiping out Thanos and his army. The flaw I see in this story is that, if Thanos goes to the future from before he snapped his fingers and dies in the future, then he wasn’t around in the past to snap his fingers in our past. How does that work? According to the directors:
“The Hulk says if you’re in the present and you go back to the past, you cannot affect the present because it has already occurred. That now becomes your past. Right? And if you’re [currently] in the past, this is now your present. And anything you do in that time shift would create a multiverse reality. It will create a new future, but it’s not going to affect your past.”
Which goes back to how I argue with T2 explaining how preventing the war will not stop Connor from being born, but I argue that in Terminator, the timeline will no longer exist, which is probably for the time GPS that the Avengers, that was used to help them return to the “their” timeline which we will call the “Endgame Line”. So in other words, every time period they went to, started a new line, I argue this because in New York with Captain America, Iron Man, Ant-Man, and Hulk, Loki got away. Yet in Asguard with Thor and Rocket, Loki is still in prison. Which must mean that New York and Asguard are two different multiverse timelines. So Thanos used their time GPS to come to the “Endgame Timeline.” But they still had to return to the stones, because like the Ancient One said, Doctor Strange needs the Time Stone to fight Dormammu in that timeline. So technically, they didn’t go to the past and return to the new future, they jumped from line to line.
But one thing the directors don’t comment on, if every era they went to started a new line, how does Cap meet up with them from the past into the present. That’s very simple, the past with Howard Stark, Hank Pym, Peggy Carter, and the Space Stone on the army base, that however is not a different line, that is still the “Endgame Timeline”, that was supposed to happen, all the eras they went through were “interferences” that’s how Cap was able to live out the rest of his life in that past and meet up with his friends in the present. That’s how I see it. Look at this way, I argue how Terminator 1 and Terminator 2 work: T1 was part of a design, Kyle Reese and the Terminator arriving in the past was always meant to happen, however in T2, that was not part of the design, the Terminator in T2 and the T-1000 was an “interference” starting a new line.
That’s just how I see it and it makes sense to me. But I have a unique perception of time travel. Take what you will from it, that’s what I believe.