T-1000 Terminator Time Travel Theory

Here’s an interesting thing I started thinking about. See, us Terminator fans know that, the time displacement machine in the movies can only send back organic material, which is why humans and Terminators have to go back in time naked or can’t bring weapons. And the reason why Terminators can go back in time, is because their living tissue is real human flesh that it shields his metal endoskeleton. So theoretically, a Terminator could smuggle a gun under his skin.

But here’s the debate. See, people wonder how Terminators like T-1000 or a T-X, which are either made of mimetic polly alloy (liquid metal) or have mimetic polly alloy sheathing can travel back in time if they’re not living human tissue. Same with the T-3000 in Genisys, which is made of machine phased matter.

There are two theories on how this is possible:

Theory 1: Some people think that the mimetic polly alloy or machine phased matter is so good at imitating human tissue that the time displacement machine can’t tell the difference. Though in Genisys, the reason the T-3000 got ripped apart in the time displacement machine was because the Terminator burned off most of his machine phased matter that he couldn’t create his living tissue sheathing.

Theory 2: Some people, including myself, believe that these type of Terminators actually coat themselves in living human tissue before traveling back in time and that when they arrive, they shed their skin and imitate human clothes. Which is feasible, considering that in T2, we don’t see the T-1000 arrive, we just saw the aftermath to which he kills the cop, leans down, and in the next shot he’s dressed in the cop clothes, as not to reveal he’s a different Terminator from the first. It’s very possible that the T-1000 could’ve shed his skin between those shots. Same with T3, where the T-X arrives, kills the rich woman, and in the next shot she’s driving down the road dressed in her clothes after imitating them. Again, not to reveal what kind of Terminator she is. Between killing the rich woman and driving the car, she could’ve shed her skin. As for the T-3000, we never saw him time travel, he could’ve had human sheathing, probably the reason he got ripped apart in the time displacement machine at the end was because he didn’t have a coating of human skin to protect him which blew him up.

Which do you prefer? Which do you think is more feasible?


My Terminator Genisys Timeline Theory

I recently saw Terminator Genisys, and I liked it, I liked it a lot. But I had a lot of questions. What mostly bothered me was:


In Terminator Genisys we see the future war from John Connor winning the war to sending Kyle Reese back to 1984. But the problem is, right when Kyle is sent back in time, a Terminator played by Matt Smith, called as Alex, grabs Connor and we later learned turned Connor into a Terminator, a T-3000. But if this is the same timeline we saw in Terminator and Terminator 2, than when was the 2nd Terminator, will call him Uncle Bob, and the T-1000 sent back in time to 1994? Now we know for sure that this movie retcons Rise of the Machines and Salvation, but does it retcon Terminator 2 also, which seems unlikely since we see T-1000s. I think I have pulled together the timeline for the series. According to the writers of the Genisys explain that Alex is from a different timeline:

Laeta Kalogridis: Skynet. You see in the beginning. He grabs John. He’s not from this timeline. He’s from an alternate universe, in the multiverse, another of the many universes that exist. That Skynet is not from that timeline.

Patrick Lussier: It is the understanding that for Skynet, finally realizing that “I cannot just wipe out the humans, I can never defeat the humans unless I have the best weapon that humans have, and that is him.”

Laeta Kalogridis: Or, more simply put, if you have a Skynet that has witnessed multiple iterations of the rise of the machines, which Skynet has…

Patrick Lussier: And being wiped out over and over…

Laeta Kalogridis: This Skynet has been to this universe, and this universe, and this universe. That’s why he says, “I came a very long way to stop you.” He’s not from here. So he’s watched it. He’s watched it happen a bunch of different times, and each time he’s seen it there is a different result but the same result.

Laeta Kalogridis: This particular Skynet, from another place. This Skynet – not from the original two movies – can [hop to different dimensions].

So this leaves me to believe this is how the timeline goes:

Full Terminator Timeline

It’s likely that the writers of Genisys were retconning Rise of the Machines and Salvation, but it’s possible that they didn’t. The writers leave me to believe that Matt Smith’s Alex/Skynet somehow, traveled from a parallel future, possibly after Salvation or another timeline that overrides Salvation to the original timeline that he originally lost and assimilated Connor.

Though that’s not how I would’ve done it. If I did the movie, I wouldn’t have Connor assimilated right when Kyle went back and have Skynet come from a parallel timeline. I would’ve had Kyle simply go back in time without Connor being attacked, the story continues from there, then we meet Connor, who came from an unknown future we haven’t seen yet where he was assimilated instead of the original timeline we saw in T1 and T2. I feel the way Skynet coming from a parallel timeline and assimilating Connor in the original timeline before he sends back the 2nd Terminator Uncle Bob just complicates things. It would’ve been simpler if Connor was assimilated in another timeline.

We still don’t know who sent back Pops and the Asian T-1000, if they get a sequel, which looks dodgy at this point, we’ll probably find out. I just hope if they get one, they explain more of these problems.

But don’t get me wrong, I overall liked it, I liked it a lot, I thought it was the best sequel since the 2nd one. It just confuses me a little, that’s why I came up with this theory, which makes sense, just very complicated. I just think it would’ve been better the way I pitched to you with Terminator-Connor coming from a different future. I think it would’ve been better this way.


I would’ve also preferred to somehow include Michael Biehn and Linda Hamilton in someway, shape, or form. I mean if they’re gonna bring back old fart Schwarzenegger, why not Biehn and Hamilton.

Terminator 5 Pitch

I saw this fan trailer a year or two ago and was very impressed by it, I could picture a whole Terminator 5 story based on this trailer like a video pitch to how they could’ve done it.

This is the story I pictured watching this trailer:

I pictured modern times with John and Sarah Connor, but Judgment Day doesn’t happen in 2004 like Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines showed. But why? John and Sarah go about their lives after Cyberdyne was destroyed, little do they know, that they’re being watched by someone, or something. That unbeknownst to them, that Terminators have been building a Terminator army in secret. When suddenly, the shit hits the fan! Skynet slowly takes over the internet while Terminators and HKs begin trying to exterminating the human race. When John and Sarah see this, they are saved by two people they never thought they’d see again, The Terminator and Kyle Reese, “Come with us if you want to live.” They get them to safety where they meet the new Resistance led by (future) John Connor’s daughter Jane. They explain that sometime after 2018 in Terminator Salvation, due to the Connors destroying Cyberdyne and postponing Judgment Day to 2004, Skynet was able to gain more information and the Resistance lost the war, so a handful of resisters, Connor, the Terminator, Jane, and Kyle included travel back in time as a last ditch effort to stop Skynet. Ironic, because in the previous movie, Skynet tried to do the same thing. They were able to stop Cyber Research Systems from developing the software that would become Skynet. But Terminators led by the T-1000 followed them into the past and between the aftermath of T2 in 1994 and current time were building a Terminator and HK army without quit waiting until now to upload Skynet to the web. Future John Connor had disappeared after stopping Cyber Research Systems, probably dead, but had a secret weapon to stopping Skynet once and for all and left clues behind to this secret weapon. So the Terminator, John Connor, Sarah Connor, Kyle Reese, Jane Connor, and what’s left of the Resistance must follow the clues to find this weapon and stop Skynet once and for all before he hacks into government nuclear weapons and beginning Judgment Day dodging Terminators and HKs of all kind. Destiny comes early. You know, like the final season of Fringe.


Terminator 5 Timeline

This is what the timeline would be like if this movie was made.

That’s what I picture when I watch this trailer, and it would be awesome to see Schwarzenegger, Hamilton, Furlong, Biehn, and Patrick all in the same movie together.

To answer you questions regarding Sarah and Kyle. I haven’t thought of an explanation of why Sarah would be alive after dying of cancer in T3, but the best explanation is that because of the Resistance preventing Cyber Research from developing Skynet they started a new timeline where Sarah never developed cancer, the butterfly effect. As for Kyle, the best explanation is that, the past is past, Kyle Reese already impregnated Sarah Connor, the Kyle Reese we saw in T1 and this Kyle Reese are from separate timelines. The one from T1 is Kyle Reese A, this is Kyle Reese B, the grown up version of Kyle in Salvation. This would also explain why in Salvation, Skynet didn’t just kill Kyle Reese, because killing Kyle would make no difference, this isn’t Back to the Future, instead used him as bait to kill Connor. This would also work for an interesting subplot, that John finally meets his father and Sarah is reunited with the man she loves, but she is conflicted because he’s not Kyle Reese A, he’s not the man who would die to save her and the father of her son. Time travel is a bitch.